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^ Meron bro, basta mag self study ka lang tungkol sa computer networking sa QA naman, kailangan lang na passionate ka sa Gaming, at dapat may attention to detail, ang hinahanap kasi ay good communication skills dahil yun ang kailangan sa pag write ng test cases or pag report ng bugs, at kailangan once mahanap mo yung bug, kailangan makagawa ka ng steps to reproduce the bug. Associates degree lang pinagaralan ko dyan satin, tatanggapin din naman ang vocational basta may skill ka na hinahanap ng company matatanggap ka.
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yung friend ko kasi sa SG sabi nya hindi daw pwede vocational lang dun.. dapat full yr course or meron kanang previous job na related dun..

mapapagaralan ba yun sa vocational? mas ok ba dito sa PH ako kumuha ng vocation o sa ibang bansa while working?

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mas ok ba kung mag aagency ako kung pupunta ng US para sila maghanap ng work?
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Daniel wrote:
SirZap wrote:yang travel na yan. puro kuripot mga barkada ko at batchmate kaya wala naman akong makasama :lol:
api na naman mga friends ko :rofl: kaya I ended up walang travel after college. :facepalm:
ako na lang isama mo sa mga ganyang lakad pafs :lol:

salamat nga pala at dahil sa iyo nakalabas ako ng bansa :cheer:

basta hanap ulit ng destination :bball:
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PitchBlack wrote: @Darkshader

sige sabihin ko yan sa cousin ko, pero tanungin ko muna kung gusto ba nya magmigrate sa US na..haha anyway, sabay ba silang magasawa makakarating sa US? isa isa lang? 3yrs na kasi silang kasal pero wala pang anak.. mas hassle ba kung magkakaanak sila dito? o dapat sa US na?

Yup parehong makukuha iyong asawa at anak. Kailangan ilista ng mother iyong name ng asawa at anak sa application. Make sure complete at walang kulang pag pinasa niya iyong applications kasi baka ma delay iyan.

Eto iyong info tungkol sa "priority date" na pina-process ng U.S. Immigration ngayon. Nasa F3 category iyong pinsan mo. March 1993 iyong pina-processed nila ngayon.

FAMILY-SPONSORED PREFERENCES

First: (F1) Unmarried Sons and Daughters of U.S. Citizens: 23,400 plus any numbers not required for fourth preference.

Second: Spouses and Children, and Unmarried Sons and Daughters of Permanent Residents: 114,200, plus the number (if any) by which the worldwide family preference level exceeds 226,000, plus any unused first preference numbers:

A. (F2A) Spouses and Children of Permanent Residents: 77% of the overall second preference limitation, of which 75% are exempt from the per-country limit;

B. (F2B) Unmarried Sons and Daughters (21 years of age or older) of Permanent Residents: 23% of the overall second preference limitation.

Third: (F3) Married Sons and Daughters of U.S. Citizens: 23,400, plus any numbers not required by first and second preferences.

Fourth: (F4) Brothers and Sisters of Adult U.S. Citizens: 65,000, plus any numbers not required by first three preferences.

On the chart below, the listing of a date for any class indicates that the class is oversubscribed (see paragraph 1); "C" means current, i.e., numbers are available for all qualified applicants; and "U" means unavailable, i.e., no numbers are available. (NOTE: Numbers are available only for applicants whose priority date is earlier than the cut-off date listed below.)

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F1 - 01JUN02
F2A - 01MAY12
F2B - 15JUL03
F3 - 08MAR93
F4 - 15NOV90

Eto iyong link ng website.
http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/e ... -2014.html

Bro, nabasa ko hindi puwede petition ang married children kung permanent resident pa lang iyong parents. Kailangan yata U.S. citizen na. Eto iyong link. Kung unmarried sana iyong pinsan mo puwede na petition ng auntie mo ngayon. So, more likely mag apply pa muna ng U.S. citizenship auntie mo.

http://www.uscis.gov/family/family-us-c ... -residents
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SirZap wrote:salamat nga pala at dahil sa iyo nakalabas ako ng bansa :cheer:

basta hanap ulit ng destination :bball:
walang anuman. this year uli hanap tayo ng magandang deal. may mga balak uli akong puntahan natin. :mrgreen:
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Daniel wrote:
SirZap wrote:salamat nga pala at dahil sa iyo nakalabas ako ng bansa :cheer:

basta hanap ulit ng destination :bball:
walang anuman. this year uli hanap tayo ng magandang deal. may mga balak uli akong puntahan natin. :mrgreen:
Get together ang PPS...sa Hong Kong :grin: :lol:
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skp_16 wrote:Get together ang PPS...sa Hong Kong :grin: :lol:
Pwede rin! Sa Sony event sa HK. :lol:
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sir thanks sa info.. malaking tulong yan..heheh
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Hindi ko lang alam sa singapore, mas maganda kung dun ka na sa country na balak mo magaral, kasi pag ganon mas madali nila irecognize, at regarding sa computer courses na vocational, alam ko meron mga vocational computer courses.
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ganun din sabi sakin ng mga relatives ko.. kahit anong work nlang daw gawin ko sa abroad pero at the same time dun narin ako magaral.. parang yung story nung sumikat ngayon (nasa TV and facebook) na dating DH na naging CEO.. nagaral sya habang nagwowork as DH abroad..
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Daniel wrote:
skp_16 wrote:Get together ang PPS...sa Hong Kong :grin: :lol:
Pwede rin! Sa Sony event sa HK. :lol:
tapos daan na rin ng Macau :cheer:
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SirZap wrote:tapos daan na rin ng Macau :cheer:
taya muna sa casino tapos diretso ng china. mali. vietnam na lang. hehehe
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ang standard of living ba sa SG almost same na sa US? (wag lang yung new york alam ko sobrang mahal dun hehe).. how about salary? ex. kung gaming industry/company papasukan ko..
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PitchBlack wrote:ang standard of living ba sa SG almost same na sa US? (wag lang yung new york alam ko sobrang mahal dun hehe).. how about salary? ex. kung gaming industry/company papasukan ko..
i can only speak for my exp back in SG so unsure ako how living standards in US fare up in comparison. Yes mataas ang living expenses sa SG pero manageable naman. Kasi sa pinas tumataas ang expenses PERO ang sahod hindi. Sa SG mataas man ang living expenses pero kakayanin naman ng sinasahod mo - that is of course nasa decent level naman ang kinikita mo (about SGD1200 and above). Kung binata/dalaga ka tapos single pa at di mo need magremit parati madali ka makakaipon pero pag may obligasyon ka na sa pinas medyo dun ka mahihirapan mag budget.

Being a practical person has its definite advantages. Kasama na dyan ang mag stick sa prepaid phone, wag na kumuha ng mga gamit na kelangan bayaran monthly, limit the clothes/shoes you buy, etc. Kahit pa maglustay ka ng pera sa pagkain ok lang kasi very affordable ang meal dun kaya karamihan kahit mga lokal prefers to eat out than cook at home. Ang tanging papatay lang ng budget mo ay ang pagbili sa mga mamahaling gamit, kahit pa gadget or damit pa yan. Just stick on things that you REALLY need and can definitely use - kung di pa naman sira ang pantalon mo wag ka bibili ng bago, pag natastas ng konti then aralin mo paano tahiin yan, gets? :lol:

Technique ko para makaipon is that mag set aside ka ng quota ng ipon for yourself from your pay for atleast 2 years (bahala ka na kung magkano) THEN saka ka magbibibili ng mga gusto mo basta importante yung nilaan mong "safety" na ipon hindi magalaw. That way, medyo mura na ang mga gusto mong bilhin at hindi pa matataga ipon mo.

And whatever happens, NEVER tell anyone how much your total savings kahit pa sa magulang mo - trust me on this. :sweat:
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thanks sa info.. sabi nga din ng friend ko yan dapat atleast 1,200-2,000 SGD salary kunin ko kasi kung below lang din.. sa PH nalang daw ako.. meron ako friend nagwork sa KFC sa SG.. halos hindi sya nakaipon kasi kahit masmtaas sweldo dun compare sa KFC dito sa PH.. mahal naman bilihin lumalabas yung remaining savings nya parang nakukuha lang din nya sa PH.. kaya TEXT SPEAK VIOLATION pang 1yr umalis na sya dun.. umuwi na ng PH hahah.. mahirap din daw maghanap ng work sa SG ngayon eh.. mahigpot na raw...

anyway, pagdating sa savings matipid naman ako and wise spender not big spender.. so no problem.. tapos single pa ako..haha.. yun nga lang kasi karamihan sa pinoy, pag biglang malaki yung salary may tendency magastos sila.. kasi iniisip mababawi naman nila kagad sa next sahod kasi malaki salary nila.. just like call center agents and casino workers kahit mga agent ng (real estate).. puro inom weekly, gastos sa gadgets, sa kotse.. pero walang savings..

simula bata ako hangang magcollege sobrang kuripot ako.. tapos nung 1st job ko 30k salary kagad.. parang nagulat ako, so may times na sobrang magastos ako.. pero lesson learned na ako.. since na exp. ko na yun alam ko na kung ano tama and mali..

onga pala.. kung nasa abroad ka.. san pinapadaan yung payroll/salary? cash? kailangan ba magopen ka muna ng own account o yung company na bahala magasikaso?..

diba ang seaman hawak daw ng family yung salary nila? kung baga diretso daw sa family kapag swelduhan..
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Sa america kailangan mo ng checking account. Most employer doon dinadaan ang suweldo mo sa checking para hindi ka narin mahirapan magpunta ng bangko. Iba naman checke parin ang binibigay.

Ang maganda sa states halos lahat ng bills like home utilities, medical, credit card, shopping, puwede mo na bayaran by internet, by check or by phone. Sa pilipinas nanakawin sulat mo sa post office kung nag issue ka ng cheke. Government agency cash parin ang kailangan kaysa check ... hindi man puwede magbayad thru internet para hindi ka na pumila. Iyong renewal ng registration ng car dito sa states automatic na din papadala pa sa iyong renewal sticker or car plate. Kahit drivers license renewal ID pinapadala na din sa bahay mo just send the payment.
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PitchBlack wrote:^

thanks sa info.. sabi nga din ng friend ko yan dapat atleast 1,200-2,000 SGD salary kunin ko kasi kung below lang din.. sa PH nalang daw ako.. meron ako friend nagwork sa KFC sa SG.. halos hindi sya nakaipon kasi kahit masmtaas sweldo dun compare sa KFC dito sa PH.. mahal naman bilihin lumalabas yung remaining savings nya parang nakukuha lang din nya sa PH.. kaya TEXT SPEAK VIOLATION pang 1yr umalis na sya dun.. umuwi na ng PH hahah.. mahirap din daw maghanap ng work sa SG ngayon eh.. mahigpot na raw...

anyway, pagdating sa savings matipid naman ako and wise spender not big spender.. so no problem.. tapos single pa ako..haha.. yun nga lang kasi karamihan sa pinoy, pag biglang malaki yung salary may tendency magastos sila.. kasi iniisip mababawi naman nila kagad sa next sahod kasi malaki salary nila.. just like call center agents and casino workers kahit mga agent ng (real estate).. puro inom weekly, gastos sa gadgets, sa kotse.. pero walang savings..

simula bata ako hangang magcollege sobrang kuripot ako.. tapos nung 1st job ko 30k salary kagad.. parang nagulat ako, so may times na sobrang magastos ako.. pero lesson learned na ako.. since na exp. ko na yun alam ko na kung ano tama and mali..

onga pala.. kung nasa abroad ka.. san pinapadaan yung payroll/salary? cash? kailangan ba magopen ka muna ng own account o yung company na bahala magasikaso?..

diba ang seaman hawak daw ng family yung salary nila? kung baga diretso daw sa family kapag swelduhan..
sa SG, your pay goes to your savings account. Ikaw mismo ang dapat mag open nun tapos bigay mo na lang sa employer mo yung acct number mo. Most employers do this pero yung ibang kumpanya na maliliit lang cheke pa rin na binibigay or cash ang sahod ng empleyado.

Take note, yung decent salary na tinutukoy ko is dapat yung ACTUAL take home pay mo, karamihan kasi ng employer iba ang nilalagay sa kontrata mo na sahod kumpara sa totoong inuuwi mo. This is to circumvent the changing procedures of hiring foreigners. May mga iba nga na-employed through agency need magbalik ng sobra sa agency sa sahod nila so kung 2000 ang nakukuha ng empleyado pero ang dapat nya take home is 1000 lang, need nya ibalik sa agency yung sobra, part yun ng deal between the employee and agency and lokals knows about it too. Headhunters, in general, does not charge applicants kasi bayad na sila ng mga employer to get people for them.

Ako mismo guilty din ako sa pagiging big spender way back since my first job pero on my last job here sa pinas and my last one sa SG nadala na ko at natuto na ko mag ipon ng husto kaya nakuha ko mabili yung mga gusto ko later on without compromising yung tinabi ko na budget. Ang nkakatakot kasi sa abroad is that anytime pwede ka mawalan ng trabaho at pag wala ka mtatakbuhan na tutulong syo kawawa ka talaga kaya dapat ready ka lalong lalo na may nakatabi kang pera na pambili ng ticket pauwi.
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mahirap yung agency.. ganun yung friend ko, agency na nga sya tapos work pa nya sa KFC.. magkano lang sweldo ng KFC sa SG tapos kakaltasan pa ng agency, talagang wala sya naipon nun.. sabi nya exp. lang daw naiuwi nya..hahaha

maganda talaga direct hire kaso dapat magaling ka.. or swerte para yung employer mismo magasikaso ng papers..

meron isa din akong friend direct hire sya.. ginawa nya nagapply sya online pero nilagay nyang address/tel is relative nya na nasa SG.. pero nandito lang sa PH yung friend ko.. so nung tumawag daw, dinahilan na wala sa bahay.. kaya ginawa bili sya kagad ng ticket papuntang SG for interview.. ayun tanggap sya, direct hire.. madali sugro makahanap ng work nya kasi ECE graduate sya..

yung ibang friend ko naman tourist visa style for 2months hangang sa makahanap sya ng full time work.. pero atleast hindi din sya agency.. ang ok sakinala may kamaganal sila para atleast free yung stay nila for a few weeks/months.. kaya natitipid nila yung pocket money while looking for a job..
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mga pinsan ko dati dumaan din sa agency and they had to endure that agreement hanggang sa mabayaran nila ng buo ang agency. Not all agencies require the applicant to return the excess to them, yung iba need mo lang bayaran yung fee nila and 1 month worth of salary and this was way back 2009 pa, hindi na ko sure sa lakaran ngayon ng mga agency. Pero ang siste, pag unang punta mo pa lang at sinabihan ka na need ka nilang singilin para lang sa pass application eh layasan mo na. Wala kasing charge dapat yun.

FYI lang pre, ang higpitan kasi sa SG across all LOB apektado PERO nag hire pa rin ang mga kumpanya ng foreigners. Pag yung LOB mo is yung kaya naman punan ng isang lokal (F&B, cust serv, retail,etc) asahan mo madami ka kumpitensya pero pag yung LOB mo eh hindi naman ganun karami ang aplikante tulad ng mga speech therapist, high-level positions, oil&gas, etc then may chance ka pa rin makapasok. I was jobhunting for 6 months. And ang labanan lang talaga is work experience and skillset. Pag undergrad ka medyo mahirap.

Wala naman mawawala kung susubukan mo mag apply kahit dito pa lang sa pinas.
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Ang gusto ko lang sa ibang bansa eh yung kikitain mo doon eh makakapagpundar ka agad ng sarili mong bahay dito sa pinas less than 3 years time na hindi ka mangungutang sa bank o kukuha ng loan sa pag-ibig. Ang masakit kasi sa mga loan schemes maputi na buhok mo, nagbabayad ka pa rin ng utang.

Kaya di mo masisi ang marami gusto umalis dito. Pero syempre may iilan na pinipiling maging positibo sa buhay at mamuhay dito pinas.
Ang laki kasi ng tax dito sa atin eh kaya di ramdam agad ang malaking ipon. Lagi na lang sapat o kulang at madalang ang sobra.

Iba pa rin ang direct hire at employer pa magaasikaso ng tiket at papers mo. Jackpot na rin yun. Pero dapat talaga worthy ka job position.
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