what's your religion?

Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:03 pm

Alam ko 2 klase din ang Orthodox Church. Yung isa may pope din tapos yung isa grand patriarch yata tawag. Not so sure.

Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:48 am

Fantasy Gamer wrote:Alam ko 2 klase din ang Orthodox Church. Yung isa may pope din tapos yung isa grand patriarch yata tawag. Not so sure.

well, meron yung Eastern Orthodox, which I will become, and yung Oriental Orthodox. you are thinking of the Ecumenical Patriarch, pero hindi siya Pope. The Orthodox believe in conciliarity, the Church is led by a council of equal bishops. being Ecumenical Patriarch is not being the leader of all. para kasing ang 12 Apostles equal sila, although may leadership role si Peter, hindi subordinate ang mga Apostles kay Peter, hindi boss si Peter.

Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:58 am

Yeah. The principle of primus inter pares... Parang yung Chief Justice.

Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:55 am

Fantasy Gamer wrote:Yeah. The principle of primus inter pares... Parang yung Chief Justice.

Yes. if you think about it, bishop din lang naman ang Pope, wala naman siyang ordination to become a Pope, so bakit siya lamang sa ibang mga bishop?

Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:07 am

choy wrote:
SirZap wrote:sabi ko na ba.... pwede ka ng maging pari kahit may asawa.
it's not about that. i think mas consistent ang turo nila with Christianity in the first 1000 years

ok great! I had the same thinking. if you can remember my early posts na nabura was about my inclintation with the Orthodox church. they got no issues about Popes, GRAVEN images, purgatory, inquisition etc. unlike catholics are "apologizing" for.

Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:10 pm

SirZap wrote: ok great! I had the same thinking. if you can remember my early posts na nabura was about my inclintation with the Orthodox church. they got no issues about Popes, GRAVEN images, purgatory, inquisition etc. unlike catholics are "apologizing" for.

nobody is perfect. if you dig into the history of the Orthodox Church and the rulers that aligned with the Church, its not a squeaky clean history. people need to stop fantasizing that religion is suppose to instantaneously transform us in this world to pure, holy beings. the purpose of the Church is to prepare us for the world to come where perfection will exist, not to be perfect in this world today. while it is true that our faith in God should transform us an make us better persons, the truth is that perfection cannot be achieved in this world. but if we do what we can in this life, it sets us up better in the next.

have you been to Paranaque? the Orthodox Church there?

Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:34 pm

yun ba yung mga nakaputi? Tapos yung church nila malapit sa isang SM?

Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:21 am

parokyano wrote:yun ba yung mga nakaputi? Tapos yung church nila malapit sa isang SM?

er... no.

ang Orthodox Church sa Pilipinas nasa Paranaque.

Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:34 am

yep i mean malapit sa isang sm sa pque.. every sunday kasi may nakikita akong mga naka all white sa isang vicinity sa sucat pque. if hindi sila yung i think "kulto" nga sila..

minsan kasi may nakasabay ako sa jeep ng mga members nun and pinag uusapan nila paano nakakapag pagaling yung leader nila.

Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:16 am

parokyano wrote:yep i mean malapit sa isang sm sa pque.. every sunday kasi may nakikita akong mga naka all white sa isang vicinity sa sucat pque. if hindi sila yung i think "kulto" nga sila.. minsan kasi may nakasabay ako sa jeep ng mga members nun and pinag uusapan nila paano nakakapag pagaling yung leader nila.

no, hindi kulto sinalihan ko

kahit ano gusto mo isuot, puwede, basta disente. naka puti lang pag bibinyagan.

Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:20 pm

choy wrote:
SirZap wrote: ok great! I had the same thinking. if you can remember my early posts na nabura was about my inclintation with the Orthodox church. they got no issues about Popes, GRAVEN images, purgatory, inquisition etc. unlike catholics are "apologizing" for.
nobody is perfect. if you dig into the history of the Orthodox Church and the rulers that aligned with the Church, its not a squeaky clean history. people need to stop fantasizing that religion is suppose to instantaneously transform us in this world to pure, holy beings. the purpose of the Church is to prepare us for the world to come where perfection will exist, not to be perfect in this world today. while it is true that our faith in God should transform us an make us better persons, the truth is that perfection cannot be achieved in this world. but if we do what we can in this life, it sets us up better in the next.

have you been to Paranaque? the Orthodox Church there?

hindi pa, I was suppose to take a visit years ago. what I've heard madaming "foreigners" or european ex-pats there.

Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:47 pm

SirZap wrote:hindi pa, I was suppose to take a visit years ago. what I've heard madaming "foreigners" or european ex-pats there.

yeah. problema sa Orthodox Church eh immigrants ang nagdadala ng faith, hindi missionaries. kaya minsan yung mga parishes nila eh ethnic parishes.

Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:28 pm

choy wrote:
parokyano wrote:yep i mean malapit sa isang sm sa pque.. every sunday kasi may nakikita akong mga naka all white sa isang vicinity sa sucat pque. if hindi sila yung i think "kulto" nga sila.. minsan kasi may nakasabay ako sa jeep ng mga members nun and pinag uusapan nila paano nakakapag pagaling yung leader nila.
no, hindi kulto sinalihan ko

kahit ano gusto mo isuot, puwede, basta disente. naka puti lang pag bibinyagan.

nakaputi lang kulto na. mukahng tino-troll ka lang ni paroks

Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:10 pm

no no no.. sabi ko kung hindi yun yung unorthodox na sinasabi ni choy baka nga kulto yun..

di ko sinabi kulto sinalihan ni choy or unorthodox = cult.

pero pag nakikita ko kasi mga yun kinikilabutan ako.. karamihan ng members mga matatanda na.. lalo pag yung mga matatandang babae tapos naka palda na mahabang white.. baka nakita din ni pototoypwets yun since medyo magkalapit lang kami..

Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:43 pm

im just joking...

yeah! baka naman yan yung sinasapian ng sto. nino yan? kasi dati may ganyang samahan na pinakita sa tv nakaputi din ang mga miyembro.

Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:04 am

SirZap wrote: nakaputi lang kulto na. mukahng tino-troll ka lang ni paroks

alam ko yung sinasabi niya. dati dun sa squatters area kung nasaan yung Trinoma ngayon eh may simbahan na ganyan, daming tao nagpupunta dun. tapos naka puti sila lahat.

Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:36 am

mas mukhang kulto pa nga kung nakaitim di ba? o pula, parang sa resident evil 4.

choy wrote:
PototoyPwets wrote:ano pinagkaiba nun sa catholic?
marami, but essentially we do not follow the Pope.

http://journeytoorthodoxy.com/

pati bible, magkaiba rin?

Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:37 pm

Daniel wrote: pati bible, magkaiba rin?

mas maraming books ang Old Testament

ShadowoftheDarkgod · Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:34 pm

alam ko yung sinasabi nyang puro nakaputi, akala ko talaga dati kung anong meron puro nakaputi eh, medyo natakot ako wahahaha

PototoyPwets · Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:53 am

parokyano wrote:no no no.. sabi ko kung hindi yun yung unorthodox na sinasabi ni choy baka nga kulto yun.. di ko sinabi kulto sinalihan ni choy or unorthodox = cult.

pero pag nakikita ko kasi mga yun kinikilabutan ako.. karamihan ng members mga matatanda na.. lalo pag yung mga matatandang babae tapos naka palda na mahabang white.. baka nakita din ni pototoypwets yun since medyo magkalapit lang kami..

HAHAHA! malapit ba yan sa "fail" na virra mall sa may SM? pansin mo agad sila kase may mga member na nasa tabi ng kalsada eh no.. di mo malaman kung ano ginagawa dun..

choy wrote:have you been to Paranaque? the Orthodox Church there?

Saan sa paranaque yan sir?