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Re: PC Setup Thread

Post by grayfox17 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:42 pm

If you do have the budget,i'd say go all out with your rig. Atleast future proof na yan.

Pero kung limited ang budget mo, madami naman mid entry dyan na pwede na, kargahan mo na lang ng mataas ng RAM at storage and you're all set. :agree:
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Post by Oink McOink » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:22 am

What components do you think na di ko dapat tipidin?

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Re: PC Setup Thread

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As Borat would say: "Very Nice!" Very nice indeed! And yep, I like some of these "mid-range" GPUs now. More power efficient while having really good performance. :)

Btw, may mga prices na daw for Ryzen octa cores. May kamahalan pa rin, pero compared sa Intel, mukhang mas bang-for-the-buck na. I'm already thinking of building another PC for "backup". Mahirap kasi walang magamit sa bahay. :lol: Baka mag AMD Ryzen na ako.



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Re: PC Setup Thread

Post by VincH » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:17 pm

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What components can I safely buy months before I assemble a PC?

I'm going to assemble my first PC this December so I'm saving up. Actually, gonna save up what I can and use the credit card for the rest.

So what can I buy and store? PC case? I know I could buy the OS now and just store it somewhere. What else can I buy? Will it be OK if I buy the electric parts, have it tried out in another PC then if it's OK eh store them?
its not a practical idea to buy parts by parts and store them for me. by the time na complete na yung setup mo after ilang months malaki ang chance na bumaba na ang presyo ng mga nauna mong biniling parts. tama si grayfox, isang bagsakan na lang sa isang shop. pwede mo pa ipabuo sa kanila para less hassle ka na pag uwi mo at sure na gumagana lahat ng parts. ganun ang ginawa ko.

for me ang component na hindi mo dapat tinitipid ay yung SSD. ang laking convenience dahil sobra bilis mag boot ng PC mo. kahit 128gb lang ok na. importante mabilis magboot. in my case more or less 10 seconds lang nasa windows na agad ako pagka on ko.

naka ilang gaming laptops na din ako dati pero nabibitin talaga ako :sweat: hassle din pag masira mga components. unusable agad.
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Re: PC Setup Thread

Post by VincH » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:47 pm

at yung PSU. avoid the generics, always go branded. madaming nabibigay na problema mga generic psu.
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Re: PC Setup Thread

Post by Oink McOink » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:05 pm

Ah. 50k budget ko but I do not want to spend much on a component that I won't fully use the feature they have.

What the difference of a socket 1151 and LGA 1151?

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Re: PC Setup Thread

Post by grayfox17 » Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:10 pm

Oink McOink wrote:
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What components do you think na di ko dapat tipidin?

RAM (6GB and above) and storage (atleast 500gb). With constant maintenance on your part, these two will serve you very well and can go a very long way. Di bale yung processor at video cards since the ones out in the market now can pretty much handle heavy tasks. Yung iba like CDdrive, monitor, etc magdedepende na sa pangangailangan mo talaga.

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Ah. 50k budget ko but I do not want to spend much on a component that I won't fully use the feature they have.


What the difference of a socket 1151 and LGA 1151?

With that much budget, you'll have more than just what you can afford. Maayos na rig mo nyan. Just dont go overboard with the aesthetics. Again, just buy what is suitable for your needs. For the extra budget, you can go for a printer/scanner (kung wala ka pa). Yung pinabuo nga naming pc 2 years ago for office use na umabot ng 6k lang ang lahat ng piyesa sa tower eh hanggang ngayon nagana pa rin at mabilis ang performance pano pa kaya yung 50K worth ng rig di ba? :agree:
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Post by Oink McOink » Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:34 pm

I'm trying to minimize the aesthetics. It should look so simple but refined so I'm going for a Fractal Case with as little design curves as possible. So I don't have a use for a Transformers looking motherboard or memory since it will be hidden anyway. I'm just aiming for a fast rig that will keep up with no matter what I put in it.

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Re: PC Setup Thread

Post by VincH » Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:31 pm

kung more on gaming pinaka importante mo i consider is yung video card then processor then ram. 8gb is enough. hintayin mo paglabas ng Ryzen cpus ng AMD then compare it to Intel counterparts bago mo i decide kung paano mo i budget ang 50k.
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Re: PC Setup Thread

Post by Oink McOink » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:08 am

It's a general setup but I would want it to handle anything so I suppose gaming would be the most taxing process it will do. (I have moved my target month from December to January 2018 because..well.. Holiday season in Manila will drive me crazy.

What do you think of M.2 SSDs? It seems relatively new I'm not sure if it will be the next standard or die like Betamax VS VHS.

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Re: PC Setup Thread

Post by grayfox17 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:22 pm

Para hindi ka mawindang sa klase ng piyesang ikakabit mo, sabihin mo dun sa pagbibilhan mo na gusto mo ng rig at budget mo lang is 40K. Yung mabubuo mo for that range can pretty much handle most of the heavy processing tasks nowadays.

If it was me at bubuo ako then i might as well isagad ko na lang din sa best parts para swak din sya for post processing and editing stuffs. Although you may not need one yet, still, it's better to have one ready kesa naman yung kung kailan ka mangailangan dun ka lang magagahol maghanap.
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Re: PC Setup Thread

Post by Oink McOink » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:06 pm

But to adapt to M.2 means I'm future proofing the rig and also going for the best storage, as you say I should focus on it. :)

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Re: PC Setup Thread

Post by grayfox17 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:31 pm

why not settle for the regular 2.5 SATA ones? mas mura kahit papano and you can easily find them at any pc store. Ang kagandahan kasi sa SATA is masira man, madali palitan dahil common sya tapos pwede mo pa ma-recycle yung pinaggamitan mo na old SATA by turning it into external drive. BIli ka lang enclosure tapos format mo sya using disk management and ok na. I've been doing this from my previous laptop hard drives for the past 6 years and i never bought a brand new hard drive at all. Pinagpapalit palit ko lang sila. Never mind the capacity since i do not store important files in my current system, i always back them up on several separate storage devices tapos retrieve na lang as needed.

The thing about future proofing your system does not necessarily mean you have to go out and get the best parts na. The "best" parts out now in the market can easily be outdated 5 years down the road. Having a rig with a bunch of high end piyesas is one thing, constant maintenance is another. You said it yourself, "general setup" lang so for now just get what you can afford and put in what you think you will need muna tapos mag upgrade ka nalang pag kinailangan na. You'll pretty much realize na yung 50k alloted budget mo for a rig is actually quite more than enough. :agree:
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Re: PC Setup Thread

Post by VincH » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:06 pm

reliable pa din ang mga regular hdd today pero kung gusto mo mabilis mag boot (around 12 secs) mag small ssd plus regular hdd combo ka. 128gb ssd is enough na for me then regular high capacity drives na yung mga secondary drives. windows and apps sa ssd then games and multimedia files sa regular hdd. ganyan setup ko before.
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Post by grayfox17 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:32 pm

nagawan ko ng paraan etong luma kong laptop na makapag boot in about 20 sec...simpleng tweaking lang sa UI kahit pa medyo luma na HDD ko :sweat:
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Post by Oink McOink » Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:34 am

It's not just future proofing din naman. M.2 is faster daw than SSDs and mukhang maliit lang difference sa SSDs (well, small enough that I might as well go for it). Syempre I'll include another drive for my files and another one as a redundant backup.

I've read before that the safest max space drive eh 2TB, anything higher has higher risk of the drive failing.

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Re: PC Setup Thread

Post by grayfox17 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:45 pm

Hard drive failure depends on usage lang din talaga. As long na hindi sya nadadamage physically it should be fine kahit pa saksakan mo ng kung ano-anong files yan at isagad mo ang available space - just not too much though.

Sa experience ko with IDE (yung mga luma to) and SATA hdd, tinotopak lang sila pag naaalog dala nga ng may disc yan sa loob. Magkaka bad sector kasi agad yan at apektado ang read/write nya. I would imagine SSD's are a different case kasi i personally did not have extensive experience in using them anyway. Handle with care na lang siguro regardless kung anong capacity ang balak mo bilhin.

Like i said, kung magpapabuo ka just go to a single store, tell them your budget and what you need the pc for at sila na bahala bumuo. Sa experience ko sa gilmore, once nabuo na nila yung rig, ipapakita nila mismo yung bios syo at yung mga piyesang nakasalpak para siguradong walang daya. Ewan ko lang kung ganun din ang practice ng ibang individual stores sa labas.
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Re: PC Setup Thread

Post by deathzero23 » Tue May 16, 2017 12:19 pm

It's been a while..

Hmmm looks like i need to upgrade for new Gaming PC to support at least 3 to 5 years of usage.

Anyways, my budget must play around 30k to 40k as much as possible.
You can suggest a 50k rig (although i'm kinda avoiding it muna).

A Gaming Rig to be precise. Kasi I'll be using it updated 3D Softwares:
3D Studio Max 2017 with Vray 3.4 plug-in
Lumion 6 & 7

Ok lang kahit Mid Tower ATX Casing ako.
Since i don't have that space for Full Tower type on my current PC Table.

How about monitors?
Can the old Samsung flat screen display great graphics let's say from GTX 980 to 1050 cards? Or do i need a new screen?

How about CPU? Do I need Skylake or Kabylake?

Memory? I'm targeting 16GB (2 pcs of 8GBs).

Hard Drive, I'm planning to use 1 SSD for OS & frequently used softwares. Ok daw ang Samsung Evo? will 128GB do? or 250GB na? For traditional HDD, 1TB may do.

Motherboard? What's the best board for my rig?
Some said Asus, MSI are good enough? (dami kasing manufacturer eh)

Same goes for Video Card (arte kasi ng Lumion, may "PassMark Points Requirement pa for both CPU & GPU)
10k lang max budget ko for this one. (I accepted the fact na malabo talaga ako mag-Titan X or even GTX 1080 :lol: dami ding manufacturer)

Probably I no longer be needing Blu-Ray/RW Drive.

If i'll be using it to play PC Games, maybe i'll play:
NBA 2K17
MGSV
Battlefield 1

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Post by grayfox17 » Tue May 16, 2017 12:30 pm

punta ka ng gilmore tapos pa-canvass ka dun. Sabihin mo budget mo at kung para san yung rig tapos sila nang bahala dun.

Pero kung gusto mo ng specific na piyesa then most likely you'll need minimum 50K.
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Post by VincH » Tue May 16, 2017 9:35 pm

deathzero23 wrote:
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How about monitors?
Can the old Samsung flat screen display great graphics let's say from GTX 980 to 1050 cards? Or do i need a new screen?
What's the model ba? if 1080p naman ok na yan sa 980 or 1050. kapag 1060 and up yung video card mo then you need a monitor with higher resolution than 1080p like 2560x1600.
How about CPU? Do I need Skylake or Kabylake?
Kabylake na. mas power efficient. i suggest i5 7600.
Memory? I'm targeting 16GB (2 pcs of 8GBs).
yes. 16gb 8gbx2 is the new normal. i recommend G. Skill brand.
Hard Drive, I'm planning to use 1 SSD for OS & frequently used softwares. Ok daw ang Samsung Evo? will 128GB do? or 250GB na? For traditional HDD, 1TB may do.
128ssd is ok na for os. Samsung evo is ok, yan gamit ko sa dating rig ko. now im using Crucial. so far so good.
Motherboard? What's the best board for my rig?
Some said Asus, MSI are good enough? (dami kasing manufacturer eh)
MSI is ok naman but Asus is better imo. as of now MSI ang gamit ko. B250 chipset is good enough.
Same goes for Video Card (arte kasi ng Lumion, may "PassMark Points Requirement pa for both CPU & GPU)
10k lang max budget ko for this one. (I accepted the fact na malabo talaga ako mag-Titan X or even GTX 1080 :lol: dami ding manufacturer)
sa 10k gtx kaya na gtx 1060 Palit or Zotac brand. para just in case na mapabili ka ng new monitor ma maximise mo pag gamit.
Probably I no longer be needing Blu-Ray/RW Drive.
yes, pero kung may extra budget bili ka na din ng external optical drive. it may come in handy.
If i'll be using it to play PC Games, maybe i'll play:
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MGSV
Battlefield 1

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Re: PC Setup Thread

Post by deathzero23 » Thu May 18, 2017 8:48 am

^Thanks for the answers. I'm accepting more suggestions :)
Yung current monitor ko right now is Samsung Syncmaster pa 18.5 inch.
1440 x 900 lang max resolution.

I'm looking for a good enough monitor for gaming na 1080p/Full HD capable (or makakasabay sa GTX 1050Ti).
Between 18.5 or 19.5 inches (yun lang kasi kasya sa space that I have sa computer table)

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Re: PC Setup Thread

Post by grayfox17 » Thu May 18, 2017 11:19 am

ayaw mo bumili na lang nung mga 32in led tv, pwde mo naman saksakan ng hdmi output yung mga yun hehe...mount mo na nga lang sa wall (kung possible syempre). Garantisado ang 1080 output dun. :sweat:
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