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Re: Usapang Pera

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:32 pm
by VincH
DarkRushBeat wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:44 pm
grayfox17 wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:40 pmSo far dami ko na nabenta since nov when i started using olx.
Sana sa akin mo na lang binenta PSP mo nun or PS Vita....

@topic...Pera rin naman ang stocks investment...Pero tama ito...

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tama yang advice na yan lalo na kung mag long term ka. kapag sa mga sureball na stocks or blue chips kung tawagin, hindi ka talo kapag mag cost averaging ka monthly. bumaba man ang presyo, madami ka din naman mabibili pag constant ang presyo na binibili mo monthly so yung average price mo eh halos same lang din.

swerte ka kung may makuha kang basura stocks na tingin mo tatagal at magiging blue chips sa future. sure na magiging milyonaryo ka. :D

Re: Usapang Pera

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:08 pm
by grayfox17
VincH wrote: Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:28 pm ^ah yes tama ibundle ko na lang. ayoko din talaga ng paisa isa. andami ko pa makakausap at nakakapagod lang lalo na kung may mambabarat pa hehe... na realize ko na madami pala akong ginastusan na mga gadgets na ngayon ay kalat na lang at walang value.
Tip lang pre kung sa OLX ka magbebenta, make your ad title catchy like "12 PS3 games bundle for 5k last price" para mabilis ka maka-attract ng buyer. :agree:

About sa stocks, hindi ko pa rin napupush yung pag review ng fundamentals nya. :sweat: Plano ko kasi mag invest ng konti just to test things out. :)

Re: Usapang Pera

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:14 pm
by VincH
^hehe pwede. sasamahan ko na din ng mga freebies na walang value para maka attract pa. dudugtungan ko ng "with freebies" :bigmouth:

ang alam ko merong stock trading game yung col financial. pwede ka mag trade using virtual money. kapag napalago mo for sure ready ka na mag trade using real money :D

Re: Usapang Pera

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:20 pm
by grayfox17
VincH wrote: Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:14 pm ^hehe pwede. sasamahan ko na din ng mga freebies na walang value para maka attract pa. dudugtungan ko ng "with freebies" :bigmouth:

ang alam ko merong stock trading game yung col financial. pwede ka mag trade using virtual money. kapag napalago mo for sure ready ka na mag trade using real money :D
Yung mga freebies na nakuha ko sa mga previous ps4 games ko sinama ko na din nung binenta ko. Tuwang tuwa nga yung mga buyer ko, kadalasan puro collector pa naman yung mga kumakagat sa ads ko.

Ready na ko mag sign up sa col financial pero may minimum yata na amount as maintaining balance, di ko lang maalala kung 25K ba or more. Maganda din sa kanila kasi meron silang financial advice kung alin ang bibilhin at alin ang hindi. Narinig ko yung COL thru Bo sanchez pero nag aalangan ako sumali sa grupo nya so ginawa ko nag download na lang muna ako ng mga reading materials regarding stocks. Basa basa muna bago sumali sa mga grupo na tulad ng kay Bo. Blanko talaga ako pagdating sa ganyan eh. :sweat:

Re: Usapang Pera

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:32 pm
by VincH
buy and sell lang naman ang stocks at gagawin mo yun thru a licensed broker. ok ang mga reviews na nababasa ko kay Bo. conservative sya mag pick ng mga stocks at suitable for long term, with matching motivational tools pa. pa member ka din sa facebook group na "Traders Apprentice Pilipinas". makaka kuha ka dun ng mga stock picks ng libre. sa COL P25k ang kailangan para makapag open, kung gusto mo mas mura try mo sa Philstocks. ang alam ko P5k ang opening account dun.

Re: Usapang Pera

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:42 pm
by grayfox17
Nagbasa basa din ako sa ibang board regarding sa feedbacks ng mga sumali kay Bo and accdg to them yung makukuha mo lang daw na mga materials when signing up eh makukuha lang din ng libre online.

Yung mga suitable stocks for buying na binibigay ni bo eh meron din daw sa COL financial. It would be better daw to self-study na lang instead of signing up for BO para no need to pay for a monthly subscription. Bukod kasi sa mga financial advice puro words of wisdom lang din naman ang binibigay nya. Kaya yun ang balak ko gawin - mag aral muna at my own pace tapos diretso na ko sa COL financial.

Re: Usapang Pera

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:53 pm
by VincH
yes. ganun nga din mga nababasa ko. kapag may account ka na sa COL nagbibigay naman sila ng research at stock picks. conservative din sila magbigay at pang long term din. merong model portfolio yung COL na pwede mo gayahin and most of the time kumikita naman pero pang mid to long term. ang advise ko lang eh yung pang invest mo ay yung perang hindi mo kakailanganin agad kasi kapag bumaba ang presyo ng stocks mo at need mo nang cash mapipilitan kang magbenta ng palugi.

imo maganda mag invest ngayon kasi paakyat ang PSEi.

Re: Usapang Pera

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:02 pm
by grayfox17
the other thing holding me back in investing stocks is yung puhunan. Naalala ko yung boss ko na pinay dati sa SG, natuwa masyado sa pag invest ng stocks a few years back tapos nung biglang bagsak yung market kinailangan pa mag loan ng husband nya na singaporean ng 10K SGD from the bank para lang pambawi... mula nung hindi na sya umulit. :sweat:

Re: Usapang Pera

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:23 pm
by VincH
baka yun yung financial crisis nung 2008. sobra dami lugi nun worldwide. maswerte ako kasi after ng recession dun ako nagumpisa at bigla akyat ng mga presyo :)

isa sa pinaka importanteng skill din sa stock trading ay yung pag alam mo kung kelan ka mag cut loss. yes, minsan kailangan tanggapin ang mga losing trades. madaming nag invest sa stock market na pagkababa ng presyo ng binili nyang stock naka hold pa din at walang cut loss plan at umaasa na lang na tataas pa in the future, ayun lalong naiipit, isa na ako dun :sweat:

Re: Usapang Pera

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:28 pm
by grayfox17
Plano ko sana mag time deposit na lang ako para safe pero ang baba ng gains. Mas maigi pang magtabi na lang ako ng kalahati ng sahod ko every month para mas malaki ang savings ko.

Papatusin ko din yang stocks basta naka gain na ko ng sapat na knowledge at mag iipon din ako ng budget na ipangsusugal ko nang para hindi ma-compromise yung rest ng ipon ko hehe...

Re: Usapang Pera

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:33 pm
by DarkRushBeat
I started checking stocks way back April 2016. Back then ang nanguguna palagi (from my observation) was Universal Mining Corp. Kaso ever since Gina Lopez & the DENR started a crackdown on mining companies, mukhang di maganda mag invest sa mining corps ngayon...

Re: Usapang Pera

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:54 pm
by VincH
yes stay away from mining stocks as of now. delikado sila sa ngayong administration. ako din naman hindi pa din kabisado ang stocks. most of the time kumukuha lang din ako ng mga tips at recommendations sa mga experts :mrgreen:

Re: Usapang Pera

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:57 pm
by grayfox17
^ di mo na kelangan tumingin sa malayo, nasa taas mo lang yung "expert" oh! :bigmouth:

Re: Usapang Pera

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:06 pm
by VincH
^mukhang ibang expertise ang matututunan natin dyan ah :bigmouth: buti na lang alam ko na kung sino contact pag nangangailangan na ako ng expertise :mrgreen: :bigmouth:

Re: Usapang Pera

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 5:09 am
by DarkRushBeat
grayfox17 wrote: Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:57 pm ^ di mo na kelangan tumingin sa malayo, nasa taas mo lang yung "expert" oh! :bigmouth:
Hindi po ako Sexpert, este Expert. :agree:

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Re: Usapang Pera

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:28 am
by Oink McOink
Do you think a Puzzle shop biz will work sa pinas? Wala kasi Puzzle shop sa pinas.

I'll buy wood puzzles na walang license or copyright and reproduce it here en mass. I asked around for woodworking prices and it looks doable. I can sell a wood puzzle around 250-350 depende sa details ng puzzles. These are puzzles that are currently not openly available locally. If it goes well, I might be able to import licensed puzzles like hanayama and other puzzles made by world famous puzzle makers.

There's a whole world of puzzles na konti lang sa pinas ang may alam. All we know is yung mga wire puzzles na binebenta sa mga novelty shops sa tabi tabi.

Re: Usapang Pera

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:24 am
by grayfox17
To be honest, a puzzle shop might not work lalo na yung mga complex figures. The only puzzle I know that the pinoy masa usually prefers are those crossword puzzles you see at the back of the local tabloids sitting right next to the sports sections. Cheap and disposable - good enough for short amount of leisure :agree:.

Re: Usapang Pera

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:41 am
by Oink McOink
That's a different audience kasi. I'm hoping there are those that thrive on difficult puzzles. There's a big payoff kasi when you solve something difficult, there's a big release in seratonin. I had friend who's initial reaction is "Dagdag stress lang yan" pero after trying out my puzzles, they just wanted more, almost like an addict.

I'm also banking on the notion that people who is smart who likes a challenge; there are people that wants to feel smart by trying it out; then there's the people who just wants to gloat that they've solved this and that, not necessarily smart, might just be egotistic and a bit of a cheat. :D

Not to mention a well made puzzle is a great display and conversation piece on a coffee or sala table.

Of course, the target audience is middle to upper class.

Re: Usapang Pera

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:53 am
by grayfox17
^You could then just buy off a few pieces and sell them off in FB or OLX just to see the reception for them. Get the cheap ones first, tapos sell them off as ornamental display puzzles para justified yung presyo na makikita nila for the item - display na, puzzle pa! :bigmouth:

Mahirap kasi gawing selling point na puzzles lang sya kasi you dont want to turn off potential buyers by having them buy something and not be able to solve it eventually. Atleast pag minarket mo sya as displays, they can still use it pa kahit di nila masolve. Para naman hindi nila isipin na "sayang lang ang pinambili ko neto." :sweat:

Re: Usapang Pera

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:09 am
by Oink McOink
Oh, they can solve it. My friends solved my premium puzzles around 6-8 hours. Hehehehe They could not stop talking about it, even took videos and pictures of themselves solving it.

Yup, my friend said that itry ko muna online. I think ang mahirap in selling puzzles is that people won't know they will like it unless they try it and how do they try it if they don't buy one.