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Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:46 pm

^^oo naman. may bayad na sila eh :sweat:

seriously, may mga nagtaas na ng presyo dun sa mga panindang tatamaan ng tax increase

na dapat sa Jan 15 pa pwede
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Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:04 am

mag-shift career na lang ako. #rallyislife :lol:
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Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:45 pm

Sunog sa mga netizens si Sen. Gatchalian dahil sa pagiging trapo at balimbing.
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nat ... dia/story/
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Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:00 pm

lol daw siya :sweat: :sweat:
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Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:53 am

Akala ko dati disente yan si Gatchalian.. pero ngayon lumalabas na ang totoong kulay.
Malapit-lapit na ako maglista ng mga politikos na hindi ko iboboto sa next election.
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Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:04 am

ok siya sa akin dahil maganda ang ginawa niya sa valenzuela. at least yung kinuwento paano niya ginawa.

kaso nung sumapi siya sa side nila binay-erap, ayaw ko na.
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:31 pm

anggulo :(
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:32 pm

^ tsk. tsk. tsk. :(
Sumama sa translacion pero ganyan naman ang gagawin.
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Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:45 am

saka yung nag-iiwan ng maraming kalat. walang problema sa akin yung debosyon. yung may nagkakasakitan at nagkakadumihan na ang di maganda. :( :(
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Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:12 pm

https://www.rappler.com/nation/193427-d ... pines-2018



The Department of Transportation (DOTr) is adding 22 point-to-point bus routes which should help make commuting easier.

DOTr adding 22 point-to-point bus routes

In a Facebook post, the DOTr said the following routes are slated to be added this year:

Pasig (city proper)-Ortigas
Pasig (city proper)-Makati
Pasay-Makati
Las Piñas-Makati
Taguig (city proper)-Ortigas
Taguig (city proper)-Makati
Sucat-Lawton
Alabang-Lawton
Bacoor-Makati
Imus-Makati
Noveleta-Makati
Dasmariñas-Makati (via Daanghari)
Malolos-North EDSA
Bocaue/Santa Maria-North EDSA
Malabon/Navotas-Pasay (via R10)
NAIA-Alabang
NAIA-Sta Rosa, Laguna
NAIA-Cubao
NAIA-Ortigas
Clark-Malolos, Bulacan
Clark-Tarlac City, Tarlac
Clark-San Jose, Nueva Ecija
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Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:20 pm

^ Nice. Sana mga makatulong yan sa mga commuters.

If Alejano is saying the truth, then WTF duterte admin!

Alejano warns vs DFA’s approval of China exploration in Benham Rise
Read more: https://globalnation.inquirer.net/16337 ... z54FT6l7vZ

At wala daw nilabag na batas, according to Cayetano.

Cayetano defends granting China research access to Benham Rise

Read more: http://globalnation.inquirer.net/163408 ... z54FpnIbSd
Follow us: @inquirerdotnet on Twitter | inquirerdotnet on Facebook

Susunod nyan may bagong map na naman ang China.. na-extend daw yun nine-dash line nila according to ancient, legendary dead scrolls from the the mythical dead sea.
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Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:06 pm

parang katropa na niloko ka dati tapos pagkakatiwalaan mo uli.

wtf talaga yan.

walang nilabag na batas? yung sa west philippine sea, meron. pressume innocent uli? :lol:
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Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:27 pm

^ Hindi na nga natin ka-tropa dati yun. pero ngayon sinama ulit sa tropa ni dutz.

"If a bully has squatted on your frontyard, and requests to look at your backyard, would you grant the request of the bully?"
- Senior Associate Justice Antonio Carpio
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Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:30 am

Proposed federal charter divides PHL into 5 states
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nat ... tes/story/
Under the proposal of the panel's Subcommittee 1, the Federal Republic of the Philippines's five states will be Luzon, Visayas, Mindanao, the Bangsamoro and Metro Manila.
Hindi maganda. Imperial Manila pa rin.
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Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:46 am

What the government is doing to Rappler is disgusting. What a blatant attack on our institutions.
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Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:51 am

Parang Marcos-era nga raw uli e
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Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:34 pm

before any generalizations tignan muna natin yung basis.
Yes! si DU30 is against Rappler pero kasi may basis yung "control" issue ng PDR to Rappler.
kung wala yung "control" provisions na yun eh di sana walang naging basehan ng suspension.

parang ganito lang yan. may kagalit kang officemate. eh parati kang late. sinusumbong nya yung tardiness mo. kahit alam mong loko-loko yung officemate mo pero kasi tama yung paratang sa iyo at may basis syempre mape-penalize ka. nakaganti sya sa iyo via legalities and policies.

in a similar fashion ganun ang nangyayari. nagpabaya kasi ang Rappler.
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I'll let the legal minds determine whether what rappler did is unconstitional or not. I've read enough literature out there and nothing has convonced me that this is anything but harassment.

We are at the point where we dont even need to make generalizations. We can already make conclusions. The simple conclusion is that any insritution critical of the government will receive harassment, and will be threatened with the elimination of their fundamental rights.

The Prietos were forced to sell inquirer. Rappler is being shut down. Abs cbn is being harassed.

Beyond that lawmakers, the CJ, and Ombusman, who have dissented against the President are all facing some sort of harassment.

Duterte said this himself:

“I’m challenging you, guys. Kill journalism, stop journalism in the country. If you are worth your salt, you should accept the challenge.”

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what this is.
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Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:58 pm

^^dude hindi mo nakuha ang sinasabi ko.

yes I agree na harassment. pero kung babasahin mo analogy ko, officemate mong kagalit (alam mong maloko) meaning he is at fault at something... in other words yung nangha-harass man sya pero may basis. sana kung wala. gets?!

kung may fault ang rappler kasalanan nila.

ganito na lang gagamiting kong words para makuha mo. si Duterte may mga kasalanan kaya kayo galit , I'll agree with that. pero nakakita ng butas, nakakita ng butas ay iba sa gumawa ng butas. meaning may basehan ang SEC.

so magkakatalo na lang ito kung ang totoo yung nakitang butas o gawagawa lang nya. either way harassment pa rin.

so tanong ko na lang sa iyo, totoo ba paratang ng SEC?

si kung ako tatanungin mo kung totoo, hindi ko alam. bilang fence-sitter sa poltical issue ito hindi ko masasgot yan. kasi kung yung mga anti-rappler ang sasabihin "ah totoo yan PDR with control na yan". kung anti-Duterte naman ang sasasbihin "ay gawagawa lang yan".
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Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:16 am

One thing I enjoy is being talked to like a 5 year old child, with analogies that are not even apples to apples

Sabi ko sa simula "i'll let the legal minds determine whether the decision was unconstitutional or not."

May opinion from legal minds far better than mine na walang violation sa constitution na ginawa ang Rappler. See for example: http://www.interaksyon.com/mel-sta-mari ... c0.twitter. So for me, at this point, making a conclusion one way or another on whether this is unconstitutional or not will send us into a rabbit hole where we would just be arguing about semantics. But if you want a sample, here you go:
(Atty. Mel Sta. Maria is the Dean of the Far Eastern University Institute of Law and professor at the Ateneo de Manila School of Law)

(UPDATED) The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) en banc decision revoking the certificate of incorporation of Rappler Inc. and Rappler Holdings Corporation violates the freedom of the press. The SEC’s resolution stated that the scheme by which the two companies allowed foreigners to invest in Rappler is in violation of the constitutional foreign equity prohibition on mass media.

But is there a violation?

None. The resolution is a stretch if only to make the situation fall within the ambit of the 1987 Constitution’s proscription on “ownership and management” by foreigners of “mass media.”. The SEC arguments do not provide a solid basis for unconstitutionality.
He goes on to elaborate why.

Of course dahil legal na itong pag-uusapan, hahanapan ng kahit anong legal loophole para ijustify yung decision. That's why I said 'i'll let the legal minds determine whether it's unconstituional or not.'

Kung iaaapply mo yung law sa Rappler, why not apply the same kind of thinking sa renewal ng Congressional franchise ng Smart? Their congressional franchise was renewed last year despite Smart's inability to follow IPO rules on their congressional franchise. That's why we're beyond the point of making any claims about generalizations. This is a specific attack on freedom of speech. Freedom of the press. And freedom of expression.
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Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:45 pm

^^dude I'm not talking to you like 5 year old. una, yung analogy ko hindi maiintindihan ng 5year old. lols. but I get your point.

also, anong hindi apples to apples dun. sinasabi ko na nga na salbahe yung example na officemate meaning salbahe itong si Duterte. so anong hindi appples dun :lol:


ngayon pinasok mo yang SMART. oh eto yung sagot galing mismo sa rappler... oh the irony.

https://www.rappler.com/nation/168765-d ... -extension
MANILA, Philippines – President Rodrigo Duterte renewed the franchise given to Smart Communications, giving it another 25 years to operate.

Last April 21, he signed into law Republic Act No 10926, extending the franchise given to Smart in 1992. Smart's franchise was set to expire last March.

The new law's tax provisions exempt Smart from paying Customs duties, tariffs, and taxes for radio telecommunications equipment, electronic communications equipment, machinery, and spare parts needed for its line of business.

Section 7 of the recently signed law also exempts Smart from the previous requirement of making an initial public offering of at least 30% of their authorized capital stock within two years from implementation of the law.

This provision in the law excludes companies which are "wholly owned by a public listed company."

In effect, Smart – which is a wholly-owned subsidiary of listed PLDT – is exempted from the public offering requirement.]
so uulitin ko OH THE IRONY.


anyways kaya ako sumabat sa usaping ownership ng rappler at telling you and Daniel na huwag gumawa ng hasty generalization is that hindi lang naman rappler tumitira kay Digong. like I said rappler and nahanapan ng butas.

i'll quote what the National Press Club has to say. itong link manggagaling sa ABS-CBN , isa daw sa siansasbing tumtitra kay digong.

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/01/17/18/n ... ss-freedom
MANILA - The National Press Club (NPC) on Tuesday said the Securities and Exchange Commission's decision to revoke the registration of news website Rappler has not curtailed press freedom.

"In the broader Philippine media industry, Rappler is just one among the thousands of media entities in the country and whose operations have remained free," Paul Gutierrez, head of the country's oldest and biggest press organization, said in a statement.

"To say that the fate of one media entity found to have run afoul with the law translates to media repression in the country is stretching the argument a bit too much."

Gutierrez said NPC has studied the Securities and Exchange Commission's (SEC) decision to revoke the registration papers of Rappler and "found it quite clear" that the firm violated the law on foreign ownership.

"As the SEC noted, Rappler breached this constitutional limit when it allowed Omidyar to exercise control over its corporate affairs as provided for in their internal agreement, in exchange for a fund infusion of $1 million,” he said.

"Responsible journalism also means complying with the law," Gutierrez added.

Gutierrez noted that the NPC has long ago made it a policy that those applying for membership should represent not only credible but also legally established media entities.

"In this case, we cannot be swayed by the emotion of the moment and go along with the general sentiment that press freedom has been threatened less [sic] we be accused of inconsistency," he said.

There are some 436 television broadcast stations, 411 AM radio stations, over 1,000 FM radio stations and more than 400 newspapers today operating freely in the country, Gutierrez said.

Prominent journalists' groups have slammed the SEC ruling, calling it a threat on press freedom.

The SEC had on Monday revoked Rappler's registration saying it had "sold control to foreigners" and violated the constitutional restriction on foreign ownership of mass media.

The website management said Omidyar Network and North Base Media "do not own" the company, even as they hold Philippine Depositary Receipts.

Depositary receipts held by Omidyar stated that its holder “must have prior approval” on changes in Rappler’s articles of incorporation or by-laws, SEC spokesperson Armand Pan earlier said.

Rappler has maintained that it did not give foreign investors control over its operations and vowed to fight the SEC ruling all the way to the Supreme Court.
also yang tinutukoy mo na legal opinion ni Atty. Sta. Maria ... in Legalese is simply an Opinion.... eh papaano yung opinion nitong Law Firm na ito?

http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1021892
MANILA -- Law-firm Dizon and Orbe-Dizon has published a factual explanation on how online news platform Rappler had violated the law, prompting the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) to revoke Rappler's registration as a Philippine corporation.

In a January 16 article in the law firm's website, lawyer Peter Michael Dizon said Rappler had violated the Constitution, which requires 100-percent Filipino control for any media entity.

Dizon said Rappler violated this provision when it granted foreign firm Omidyar Network control of the media outfit through some clauses in the foreign investor's provision of Philippine Depositary Receipts (PDRs).

Simply put, PDRs are a form of a capital infusion of a foreign entity so a local firm can keep its operations going.

"There is nothing wrong with the issuance of PDRs," Dizon said. The problem, the lawyer pointed out, was with the conditions linked to the PDRs issued by Rappler to Omidyar Network, prompting the SEC to revoke the news site's registration as a Philippine corporation.

"The provisions included a condition that Rappler and Rappler Holdings cannot alter, modify, or change their Articles of Incorporation and Corporate By-Laws without discussion with the Omidyar Network PDR holders and obtaining the approval of at least two-thirds of all issued PDRs," Dizon explained.

Rappler Holdings was the company established by Rappler to get foreign investments via PDRs, Dizon noted. Rappler Holdings fully acquired the Rappler news site in 2015.

Dizon stressed that under the Securities Regulation Code (SRC), control goes beyond ownership of shares. In the case of media firms, there should be no foreign firm control at all, based on Philippine laws.


Rappler's defense

One of Rappler’s defenses is that "it is not a media company" and "what it does is not part of mass media," Dizon noted.

"The SEC threw this defense out the door," the law firm said, however, pointing out that Rappler had in fact named itself publicly as a media outfit.


"Rappler had been outing itself publicly as a mass media firm in legal terms and in its press releases," Dizon pointed out.

Rappler, Dizon recalled, also submitted last December a piece of paper saying that the holders of the PDR are waiving their rights to the control provision of the PDR.

"The piece of paper was ignored because it was not even authenticated," he said.


What the SEC did

Dizon noted that in the end, there was enough basis for the SEC to conclude that Rappler issued the PDRs to illegally skirt the strict ownership and control requirements of Philippine law.

The SEC then declared the PDRs issued to Omidyar Network by Rappler void and revoked the news site's certificate of registration as a corporation with the SEC.

"Note that PDRs are not evidence of foreign ownership. It is the contractual provisions in the PDR that will determine foreign control and/or ownership. In Rappler’s case, the PDRs granted its investors some control. Our law prohibits ANY control," the lawyer stressed. "And that was why Rappler’s registration was revoked." (PNA)
ngayon sino susundin mo? Opinion ni Sta. Maria o Opinion nitong Law Firm? para ma-settle yan sa Korte mag-raklamo ang Rappler :surprise:

so the long and short of what I'm saying sa Korte na lang.
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Another fishing expedition, but yeah wag muna tayo mag generalize :lol:

https://www.rappler.com/nation/193996-n ... -complaint

A good somber look at constitutional restrictions on foreign ownership:

http://opinion.inquirer.net/110382/fear-of-foreigners
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Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:21 am

Good points from the Inquirer column. An era that no longer exists.

Nung lumabas yung balita tungkol sa Rappler at foreign ownership, una kong naisip, CNN Philippines. Siguro naman licensing ang ginawa roon. Pero kung titingnan mula sa labas, CNN, foreign, pero dapat 100% Filipino ownership. Ang labo. :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:22 am
Another fishing expedition, but yeah wag muna tayo mag generalize :lol:

https://www.rappler.com/nation/193996-n ... -complaint
anong relation nito sa sinasabi ko? :lol:

iba ownership problem nila sa fishing expedition na yan :lol:

just to remind you nag-reply ako sa iyo dahil sabi mo "What a blatant attack on our institutions.".

eto attack on rappler lang. :bball:

so generalization nga ... ng rappler at kanilang believers :rofl:

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Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:22 am
A good somber look at constitutional restrictions on foreign ownership:

http://opinion.inquirer.net/110382/fear-of-foreigners
so ano sinabi ni habito? kinuwestiyon lang nya ang "lumang" constitutional provision ......

pero kahit luma yan, yan pa rin ang prevailing na batas.
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Good points from the Inquirer column. An era that no longer exists.

Nung lumabas yung balita tungkol sa Rappler at foreign ownership, una kong naisip, CNN Philippines. Siguro naman licensing ang ginawa roon. Pero kung titingnan mula sa labas, CNN, foreign, pero dapat 100% Filipino ownership. Ang labo. :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
eto po ang kasagutan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN_Philippines
Under the brand licensing agreement between Turner Broadcasting System and Nine Media, the latter will pay CNN an undisclosed amount of monthly fee for programs and expertise from CNN International and CNN/U.S. that will air in the CNN Philippines in exchange of locally produced news, current affairs and lifestyle programs and rolling news coverage from 9News, all based on the standards of CNN. Also, 9News will be trained by CNN staff at the CNN Center in Atlanta, Georgia to enhance their reporting that will also help them to contribute reports for CNN International along with its news bureaus scattered worldwide; as consultants from the latter will help Nine Media/RPN for further development and expansion of CNN Philippines. The official news website, 9news.ph will be redesigned and changed into CNNPhilippines.com
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Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:01 am

So licensing nga.

Ang weird lang. Pinag-uusapan sa constitution no foreign brands pero may CNN. Weird. :lol:

Parang batas kunyari na no foreign brands. Pero may McDonald's at ang nagpapatakbo, yung Jollibee o kaya Burger Machine. :rofl:
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