What 4K TV Do You Recommend?

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Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:19 pm

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Sn@kemaru wrote:Question ulit.
Tama ba na not all 4K TVs have HDR-capability?
Tinitignan ko kasi ito LG ULTRA HD TV 40UF670T at wala ako mabasa HDR sa tech specs niya.
Yes not all 4k tvs have hdr, and even tvs that have hsr vary by what type of hdr they provide.

There's hdr10 which is what the ps4 pro supports. Then theres dolby vision.

Then within hdr10 standard there are uhd premium certified sets which adhere to the standard, then there are other hdr sets which fall short.

Ita currently a minefield out there, so it would help to do research.

Also some sets with hdr have high input lag when hdr is turned on. So take that din into consideration.
Thank you for the informative reply, pafs.
Just learned from the agent that the LG ULTRA HD TV 40UF670T is a 2015 model.
May nakita lang ako nito sa olx na nagbebenta pa.
Saan ko makikita sa tech specs ng TV yun input lag?
So far ito pa rin ang target ko:

Samsung 40KU6000
http://www.samsung.com/ph/tv/KU6000/?mo ... KU6000GXXP

4K
UHD-upscaling
Motion Rate: 120Hz (just like my current LG)
HDR Premium

23.5K ang lowest offer sa akin ng agent ng Ansons.
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Ignore the model number since magkaiba model number sa north america and asia, pero here is a good review foethe ku6000. http://ca.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/ku6300

Seems to do well in terma of input lag
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ron_bato wrote:Ignore the model number since magkaiba model number sa north america and asia, pero here is a good review foethe ku6000. http://ca.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/ku6300

Seems to do well in terma of input lag
Rating: 7.5 Mixed Usage
"Good TV for a mixed usage. It isn't bad at anything. It will work in any kind of rooms since it is versatile. It is especially good for video games and sports."

Nice. Nabarat ko pa ng konti yun sales agent. Sana makapunta ako sa store nila bukas. 1 stock unit na lang daw ang available dun.
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I bought a Samsung 40KU6000 today.
Gabi na ako nadating ng bahay kaya hindi ko pa masyado na-explore/calibrate.
ron_bato wrote:I downloaded some hdr10 demos off a demo website and all i can say: WOW.

The colors really pop in hdr. And this is comig from a non premium hdr certified tv. I think we are ways away from hdr and 4k being the norm, but the tech is really impressive.
Please provide link for these demos. Thanks.
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Sn@kemaru wrote:I bought a Samsung 40KU6000 today.
Gabi na ako nadating ng bahay kaya hindi ko pa masyado na-explore/calibrate.
ron_bato wrote:I downloaded some hdr10 demos off a demo website and all i can say: WOW.

The colors really pop in hdr. And this is comig from a non premium hdr certified tv. I think we are ways away from hdr and 4k being the norm, but the tech is really impressive.
Please provide link for these demos. Thanks.
http://demo-uhd3d.com/categorie.php?cat=demouhd
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Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:22 pm

^ Thanks. Makapag-download nga. hehe
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Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:56 pm

I'd recommend a 4K HDR TV that supports HDR10 mode (10 bit panel)
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Thu Nov 10, 2016 6:46 am

I also have plans to upgrade my setup, pero I still have some questions in mind:

1) Recommended ba mag-4k kahit na medyo maliit yung kwarto?

2) What's the ideal TV size kung hahabulin mo yung 4K?

3) Recommended budget 4KTVs?

4) Also, recommended HDR10 capable TVs on a budget (if such things exist na locally)?
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Khrysler Jerikho wrote:I also have plans to upgrade my setup, pero I still have some questions in mind:

1) Recommended ba mag-4k kahit na medyo maliit yung kwarto?

2) What's the ideal TV size kung hahabulin mo yung 4K?

3) Recommended budget 4KTVs?

4) Also, recommended HDR10 capable TVs on a budget (if such things exist na locally)?
1. Yes, of course bigger is better, and size of the room is consideration. So Ideally, you'd have a 50 inch TV if your viewing distance is around 5 feet or so. If you sit pretty close (2 feet or so) then a 40-43 inch TV will be suitable (given na maliit kwarto mo)

2. Ideally you'd go 55 inches if you want to really maximize 4k viewing (not scientific, this is just the 'consensus' from what I've read)

3. There are a couple of options, but I would recommend the Sony 43x8000d. Reviews: http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x800d
http://4k.com/tv/sony-x800d-review-4k-h ... br43x800d/

Few caveats, it has poor viewing angles, so you'd want to sit directly at the center. Even just a slight movement off angle, you'll see colors and contrast wash out a bit. HDR implementation is good enough, but it's not perfect or ideal for 'true HDR' experience. It just checks the bare minimum (10 bit panel, HDR 10, Wide color gamut) which is a plus.

Personally I've seen a few games in HDR, and although you can notice a difference (with sunlight, clouds, colors in particular) it's not necessarily revolutionary. It could be because the implementation of HDR on consoles is still in its infancy, but it also could be because the x8000d is a budget HDR set.

But I've seen demo content of HDR and it looks really good. So hopefully with more time, HDR implementation on the PS4 pro becomes better.

4. See answer above: I think if you're going on a budget, the x8000d is the best bet. It goes for around 31-32k right now (down from 43k a couple of months ago - so it's a pretty good deal).
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Dalawa lang stock sa itech market market lol. Kaya yung gusto bumili sugod na hahaha
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Khrysler Jerikho wrote:I also have plans to upgrade my setup, pero I still have some questions in mind:

1) Recommended ba mag-4k kahit na medyo maliit yung kwarto?

2) What's the ideal TV size kung hahabulin mo yung 4K?

3) Recommended budget 4KTVs?

4) Also, recommended HDR10 capable TVs on a budget (if such things exist na locally)?
Bukod sa Sony 43x8000d na na-mention ni ron_bato, you may wanna check out the Samsung 40KU6000 (40" 4K with HDR Premium). Read the review and ratings here: http://ca.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/ku6300
Nakuha ko ng 23K ito from a seller/agent ng Ansons pero nung nag-check ako sa Western Appliances ay nasa 31K ito (hindi pa discounted).
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Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:04 pm

if you can afford the Sony one get it, it supports HDR10, the Samsung one is only 8
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Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:35 am

Thanks for the input guys, really helpful for a noob like me.

Nagsukat ako ng room ko kanina since I was already planning to do some room renovation anyway, and I found out na my room's dimensions are around 5.33 feet by 6 feet, so I guess going for a 43" TV unit would be normal?
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Khrysler Jerikho wrote:Thanks for the input guys, really helpful for a noob like me.

Nagsukat ako ng room ko kanina since I was already planning to do some room renovation anyway, and I found out na my room's dimensions are around 5.33 feet by 6 feet, so I guess going for a 43" TV unit would be normal?
Yeah sounds about right.
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Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:24 am

...walang 4k with hdr ang 32 incher?
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Tibarn wrote:...walang 4k with hdr ang 32 incher?
Sa ilang weeks na pagsasaliksik ko, pagtatanong ko sa mga sales agents ng mga appliance stores, sa mga brochures, so far ang nakita ko pinaka-maliit na 4K is 40".
Ako rin sana balak ko 32" lang pero wala eh.
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...maliit lang kasi kwarto ko di pwede ang 40, 32 nga parang ang laki na. pero siguro 32" ang max nya sa kwarto, saktong sakto sa mata ko yung 24" ko ngayon dahil nasa paanan lang ng kama ko yung wall na pinag hahangan ng tv.

...parang last time may nakita akong ads ng Dell, gagawa sila ng gaming monitor na 24"-32" na may 4k and hdr? di lang sure ah.
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kahit ako, nung nagpaplano ako bumili ng tv pinag iisipan ko din yung 40inch. Kumbaga may budget ako pero inaalala ko yung space ng kwarto ko. I settled for a cheap 32 inch sharp aquos na lang that I use now with my ps4 and ang laki na nya para sa kin, nasa paanan din ng kama ko yung table kung saan nakapatong yung tv ko. :sweat: Kung makapal ang pader ng kwarto ko i would gladly put up a wall mount to accomodate a 40 inch pero hindi tsaka hassle naman pag need ayusin yung connections sa likod nya.
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Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:08 am

^ Malalaman ba kaagad yun out of the box? Or is it something na makikita mo lang sa reviews and online tech specs?
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Ano po mas maganda, X800D or X8000D?


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Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:43 pm

I think they are the same, do you have the link for the TV?
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Big deal kaya yung triluminos display? Tumingin kami kagabi ng ng tv eto ang pinagpipilian namin 8k din ang difference although mas maganda talaga yung display ni X8000D.

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kenpachi1427 wrote:Big deal kaya yung triluminos display? Tumingin kami kagabi ng ng tv eto ang pinagpipilian namin 8k din ang difference although mas maganda talaga yung display ni X8000D.

49" Sony X8000D - 44+++
49" Sony X7000D - 36+++
If hdr is a big deal for you, go for the x8000d. X8000d has a 10 bit panel, with wide color gamut. So you'll get better color reproduction.

The samsung 49 ku6300 is a pretty good tv, and is for sale now for 32k. Which i think is better than the x7000d.

The lg 55 uh7700 is for sale for 40k though. You might want to consider that as well.

Personally sony and samsung tvs have better upscaling. You cant beat size though, so the 55 uh7700 is a great deal.

I have the 43 x8000d and the colors are really good. Cant be happier with the picture quality.

But my advice go for the lg 55uh7700.
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@ron - hdr din yung x7000d, nabasa ko sa post mo na 43" na x8000d ang binili mo, ang laki kasi ng diff sa price ng 43" at 49". Ok din yung nirecommend mo na lg pasok din kasi sa budget ko na 40k pababa, kaso parang sa olx lang ako nakakakita nyang uh7700 :sweat:
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