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deathzero23
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Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:02 pm

I guess para itaas ang antas ng Pinoy Basketball eh to keep competing. And scout future prospects yung may height and speed. Asikasuhin na yung passports early on. Alisin ang pulitika. Hindi masama mangarap ng world stage basketball para sa bansa natin.

masakit lang marming utak talangka kahit kababayan pa.
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Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:07 pm

i won't blame Blatche.. siya lang yata gusto manalo kanina.. if natalo dahil sa kanya then ok lang.. siya lang din nagbigay ng chance sa atin sa game kanina.. ang totoo the whole team got outplayed except for blatche..
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Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:09 pm

Sayang yung game pero wala, too many errors on offense and defense. We need more shooting too. Si parks parang naging mini Norwood, sayang lakas dumepensa pero medyo gun shy pa and walang confidence mag finish.

Galing nung Webster brothers and yung fotu.

Oh well, ganyan talaga. Gilas competed well and hopefully we still get full support of the Philippine basketball community moving forward.
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Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:12 pm

Be positive kahit defeated...
Critics blaming the lack chemistry. Prefers Gilas 3.0 than 4.0.
If the problem is chemistry, then how about the every monday practice that didn't happened as scheduled?
Maraming absent lagi.
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Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:15 pm

Nasayangan lang ako doon sa possession. Prior doon, iniwanan lang ni Blatche yung bantay niya at naka lay up siya. And we were only down by two, IIRC.
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Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:28 pm

flipsflops wrote:Nasayangan lang ako doon sa possession. Prior doon, iniwanan lang ni Blatche yung bantay niya at naka lay up siya. And we were only down by two, IIRC.
Sayang yung possession yeah, and he had that one more turnover where the defense loaded up. but you take the good with the bad with him and he was feeling it at that point so you give him a pass at times. We lack the playmaking ability especially when we are outmatched physically so sometimes we can't do anything but rely in blatche to make something happen.

He worked hard in the second half though and gave us everything. For someone who was criticized as not wanting it enough in the nba, he's shown us that he wants to play for us and comes out there to battle.

I was more disappointed in our defensive lapses more than anything. Too many times we got beat due to miscommunication and lack of effort on back cuts. Oh well.
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Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:29 pm

Rebuild gilas from scratch. Hanap ng import na mala Draymond Green ang laro at energy. Palitan rin ang coach.

Gawin 2 conferences lang ang PBA. Pratice/training ng Gilas yung months na kung saan dapat ang 3rd conf. If hindi talaga pwede, hanap ng players and coaching staff who are willing NOT to enter pro. Sweldohan nalang sila ng Gilas sponsors.

Anyway...thank you RDO, Norwood, and Ping!

Shet, Castro said "siguro last ko na ito". :sad:
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Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:45 am

Yung isang 3pt shot by NZ tapos 3 Gilas players nakatingin lang. It was an eyesore.

I hate the Gilas Cadet rout. Kasi back to zero at malayo layo na naman ang world stage dream.
Andun na tayo sa FIBA worlds last time eh. Kahit maging regular participant ok na sa akin yun.
Being a regular FIBA worlds participant makes the national team better as a group and as players.

I don't think papayag uli ang PBA na maging 2 conference format. Profit-minded ang PBA along with team owners.
Although not all team owners. It was shown in the past na RoS and Alaska management ang very supportive in lending their best players.
Of course automatic na yung MVP teams. What's left is the SMC teams that always being ridiculed by the Gilas fanbase.

Alaska team owner Wilfred Uytengsu have a proposal for PBA and SBP. Let the best prospect (who are Gilas bound like Kiefer, Belo, Pogoy, Tolentino, etc.) enter the next draft (and not stop them by locking to the Gilas contract for 2-3 years before turning pro) play for mother teams but kelangan swelduhan sila ng Gilas like a minimum of 50k a month (and some perks).

PBA is where the country can get the best players for the National Team. Going back to the Gilas Cadet format kinda disappoints me.
Pero alam natin kung ano mga pinag-ugatang problema bakit SBP will go back to that recruiting program.

Anyway, I would like to ask something.
Pwede ba yung magkaroon ng tayo ng large pool for NT?
Like Gilas Team A vs Gilas Team B? Tapos pagkakitaan na lang ng MVP yung mga laban ng Team A vs Team B if they want profit.
Pwede rin Gilas vs Sinag kahit medjo lugi yung Sinag players. After like 5 local matches saka bubuo ng Final Gilas Team then join regular tournaments outside the country and some tune up games. Unlike yung kukuha lang ng top 20 sa listahan like ginawa last time.
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Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:39 am

If we want to compete we need 6'9" to 7'0" players na maganda din built.. di na need ng mahabaang practice.. yang mga national teams ng ibang bansa sandali lang din nabubuo lalo na yung may mga NBA players and professional league players.. kung kulang talaga sa size and skills kahit anong preperation or practice pa gawin walang mangyayari.. tigilan na din ng mga peenoise yang puso puso na yan.. pampalubag loob lang sa mga talunan yan.. let's face the tune na din.. aasa lang tayo sa naturalized pinoys or mga fil-american.. hindi pang world stage ang mga pure blood pinoys sa basketball kundi basura lang.. dito lang sa south east asia maggahari ang mga homegrown pinoys where bano ang mga kalaban..
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^harsh naman yung "basura". Nakapag-bronze naman tayo sa worlds noong 1954, 7 appearances sa Olympics at ilang golds na rin sa Asian level.
It's just the politics is the root problem of the NT program. Habang nagpupulitikahan, after 1954 and after mid 1960's nag-iimprove na yung mga ibang bansa. Napag-iwanan lang tayo.

Pero I agree, at this level wala tayo choice kundi aasa tayo sa Fil-Am at Naturalized kasi kulang tayo height. Harapin na natin. Hindi kakayanin ng homegrown talent ang world stage at the level of competition meron ngayon. Dati pwede, pero iba na ngayon eh. Kung ano mang naging effective approach noon ni Ron Jacobs i think hindi na ito magiging 100% effective today. We could take some from Jacob's playbook though. I think one of the NT's strength is the organized chaos play style.
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deathzero23 wrote:^harsh naman yung "basura". Nakapag-bronze naman tayo sa worlds noong 1954, 7 appearances sa Olympics at ilang golds na rin sa Asian level.
It's just the politics is the root problem of the NT program. Habang nagpupulitikahan, after 1954 and after mid 1960's nag-iimprove na yung mga ibang bansa. Napag-iwanan lang tayo.

Pero I agree, at this level wala tayo choice kundi aasa tayo sa Fil-Am at Naturalized kasi kulang tayo height. Harapin na natin. Hindi kakayanin ng homegrown talent ang world stage at the level of competition meron ngayon. Dati pwede, pero iba na ngayon eh. Kung ano mang naging effective approach noon ni Ron Jacobs i think hindi na ito magiging 100% effective today. We could take some from Jacob's playbook though.
Dude that's from a different era pa.. we're talking about today..

if hindi basura ang all pinoy team today then tingin mo mananalo sila sa korea, japan, china, and iran dito sa asia ng walang jayson castro william, norwood, slaughter, and parks? asian level oa lang yan and malaking dufference ang worlds.. iran and china nga din di makaisa sa mga powerhouse from europe and americas.. aasa lang tayo na madami pasanang ofws or japoks sa olongapo ang magpa jontis sa mga foreigner para may maharvest tayo sa near future.. we needmire filipina whores para maging competetive tayo sa basketball kasi again.. basura na ang mga pure blood pinoys pag international and world stage ang usapan..
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Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:21 am

this is what i'm thinking everytime my nba player na pupunta dito mag hire ng pokpok si mvp na magpapabuntis sa nba player and ampunin niya pag lalake yung anak.. or bili na lang siya ng semen ng mga players na ito ang mag surrogacy na lang..
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I just suddenly remembered that "Yao Ming Project" of China :lol:
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Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:09 am

this sucks.. back to reality lang ako na wala tayo ibubuga talaga and need umasa sa fil foreign and naturalized talents.. even some of them di pa makaporma.. yung ibang di naisama shooting kang din ang maitutulong except for clarkson..
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Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:04 pm

Wow! Both Senegal vs Turkey, and NZ vs France ganda ng laban! Surprised na madaming nanood ng NZ-France. Crowd kampi sa France!

Isaac Fotu...we might this guy in the NBA soon.
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Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:50 am

Somewhat OT -

The behavior of a huge number of fans booing when the NZ team was performing their Haka was really a display of bad taste and international cultural ignorance.

Even the Event Organizers not stopping the music while the Haka was ongoing was showed a lack of coordination and knowledge.

Honestly, nahiya ako sa pagiging pinoy ko nung time na yun.
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Just wondering since tayo ang host diba tayo dapat ang gumawa ng schedule? Sana ginawa munang Fra vs NZ nung 2nd day TEXT SPEAK VIOLATION Phi vs NZ kahapon para kahit panu nakapahinga pa Gilas TEXT SPEAK VIOLATION medyo pagod na NZ :bigmouth:
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RE: Scheduling
That was the big issue when the hosting was awarded to us. It didn't gave us the home team a favorable schedule. 2 quick games agad. walang pahinga.
Kinginang Fiba yan. Pinag-host na nga eh di binigyan ng matinong schedule ang home team.
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Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:00 am

Medyo puno ang MOA arena kagabi sa finals France vs Canada. I hope na "plus points" ito for a chance na mag host ulit tayo ng Fiba tournament.

Congrats France!
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Sat May 13, 2017 9:52 pm

Qualifier ba ito sa FIBA asia? Overkill yung lineup eh..
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qualifier nga :2thumbs:
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Ipapalabas ba sa atin yung Fiba 3x3 world cup? May nakakaalam ba ng schedule and what channel? TIA :)
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Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:50 pm

Dugyot talaga ni boy libag.. ejected agad.. sayang yung fil german.. parang prime pingris pero with better IQ.. hotaena kasing hagop rule yan..
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Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:17 pm

Muntik pa mag choke. Buti nalang nag init si TR to close the game!

No problem sa offense. Mas maganda ikot ng bola pag walang tunay na import.

Ang kulang lang ng Gilas ay legit rim protector and defensive rebounder against 7 footers.
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